Having wore many of 5.11 products, these pants as well as the Station Shirts were the only ones I regret buying. They were well built but after using them for about 5 months the color had faded drastically, even used the instructions on how to wash them inside out on cold, still faded to a ashy grey looking dark navy blue.
I have been wearing these 511's for 3 or 4 years now. ( not the same pair). really like the hidden stretch waist.
they fit well and color retention is very good. the only reason I don't give a 5 star rating is I think they could be priced a bit lower.
Bought these after my other 5.11 pants wore out in less than a year. Ordered a size larger than normal to have some room to move. Nope very restrictive around the hips. Hard to get in and out of vehicles. I have cargo pants from walmart that fit better than these overpriced 5.11 pants. Ill go back to elbeco which were cheaper and fit much better.
I just bought these and they work great. I where them to The Fire Station and when I go on Calls and they fit Perfectly when I put my Turnouts on when I go on Calls. They match our Station shirts too so that is another Plus I really don't have anything Negative to say about them.
I purchased the same pants 2 years ago. They have held up extremely well. The color has remained dark longer than similar pants in the same price range. They can be a bit warm in the summer, especially under bunker pants. I enjoy the hidden waist expander and if the Tac-Lites came this way I may try them.