These are great for when I need to dress up but don't want to feel like I'm always at risk of ripping my dress pants.
The pockets can carry a mag and not print much, but really they are nowhere near as large as cargo pockets. The zipper is so small most people won't notice.
Mine machine wash fine.
This was my first set of pants from 5*11, and I wear them still. Purpose built, and built to last, these pants have been through a lot with me. The Khaki style pant allows me to wear it to semi-formal occasions and in place of dress slacks, while the in-seam side pockets are perfect for concealing a flashlight or spare magazine. They are my personal choice when working executive protection or corporate security events. I will say that the crotch blew out, but they lasted far longer than other pants I've worn for work.
I ordered these because I have the original Covert Khaki, and I looked at these due to the fact that the zippers were a little more subtle and it looked like they would not wrinkle as badly. While both are true, these pants are tighter, made of a material that does not breathe as well, and the covert pockets are not tacked down in any fashion, which means that they tend to twist up when walking and that makes it hard to get items in or out.
I like the pants and the fit. But you need to pay attention to the covert side pockets. The zipper often needs both hands to open. The way the pocket is situated there is a good chance when you sit down with the pocket open, things will slide out. Lost some light items without knowing it. (your mileage may vary ;))
These are closer to a slim cut than a regular/loose cut in the waist size. I wear Stryke pants daily and thought I would order the same size....nope, I need to return and see if they will replace with a up size in the waist. other then that they look and feel great
Have 4 pair (36" & 38" waist depending upon method of concealed carry). Inside carry can be a bit tight with a "metal clip holster" due to the thickness of the expandable waist, but leather loops do not present a problem. OWB carry in 36" waist is perfect. OD Green or Dark Grey would be a nice addition to the color choice, otherwise these are my go-to dress casual pants and take an ironing beautifully.
I have two pair of these pants in khaki, and like the fit and features. They are easy to pack, look good, fit well, have nice features... The reasons for the four stars, instead of five, are these: 1. You need to sell them in more colors than just these black and khaki. I needed a pair of navy colored pants and had to buy another style, one that I am not as happy with. 2. The rear pockets are too small. I find myself struggling to remove my wallet from them -an issue that I don't have with any other pants that I own. Other than these two complaints, I am quite happy with these pants.
Really great pants, cut a little bigger which is good without alot of extra crouch. Only down side is the lack of color. Wish there was a grayish color.
Very happy with these pants. I ordered one of each color. I work in an office and they look like a pair of nice khakis. They're actually more comfortable than the khakis I typically buy. I've only had them for a few days but the quality looks excellent. They don't look at all like a tactical pant. In fact you really don't notice the size zippers at all.
I did take off one star for two rather small reasons:
1. You need more colors. If you add a navy and olive I think you would be set.
2. PLEASE make the back pockets about 1/2" wider! If you did that you would open up these pants to a whole world of pocket carriers! ONe of the big reasons I decided to try these pants is that I like to pocket carry a Sig P290 and I was hoping the pockets would be a little wider than a standard khaki. In most khakis, the back pocket is too narrow to pocket carry even the smallest 9mm. You really have to go down to a Sig 238 or Ruger LCP. If these pants had slightly wider, and a hair shallower back pockets they would fit several 9mm include my 290, the Sig 938, Kimber Solo, etc.
Considering the fact that these are meant to be "Covert", being designed to "back pocket carry" would seem to be a great marketing feature for these pants.
I've searched high and low and have not been able to find a good pair of khakis for a small 9mm back pocket carry. The fact is, with most khakis, even an LCP is a bit snug.
I bought 2 pairs 2 years ago for daily work wear as an SRO, and I am very pleased with the durability of the pant. After owning my first 2 pairs for about 30 days of wear, I ordered 2 more pairs. All in all I have been rotating the 4 pairs daily now for over 2 years. The permanent crease is still intact, but some of the water repellent has deteriorated, after 2 years of wear and washing i would expect that, It's time to order another 2 pairs due to wear and tear. Comments about the hidden zippers not being trusted due to the possibility of the zipper opening because they zip up has not been an issue with my pants, The zippers are durable and tight...they have never opened without me accessing the pockets. I have been happy with the relaxed fit and the professional appearance these khakis have provided. I have never had a static cling issue with these, I follow the washing instructions religiously and line dry the pants after each wash, just to increase the longevity of the pant.
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