Got my Kinetic full zip last week. I love the way it fits, it is very flattering to my form and it looks very, very smart. It keeps me quite warm and each time I wear it I get a lot of comments and compliments and feel the gazes upon me, so I guess it isn't very covert in that respect. The utility of the pockets is great. Pen is no longer shoved in a pocket, but easily reachable and conveniently on my shoulder. I also moved my radio to my opposite shoulder and found that quite handy. All long sleeve tops with thumb holes cause me worry about wear and tear to the bit of fabric over my palm, but my kinetic full zip seems to be holding up fantastically so far. If you want this and you are really considering it, go for it. You won't regret it.