I really like the pants. The only change I would make is reducing the bulk at the waist. I had to go one size up on my pants belt and duty belt because of the bulk. I like the rubberized inner waist line to keep the shirt tucked in. I do not need the expandable waist as this is what I believe adds the extra bulk. I would like at least an option that does not include this.
The color does not fade and they wash well. The sizing on these pants is very inconsistant. We ordered several pairs of the same size and the fit was very different on each of them. Also they would be really great with a bit of stretch in the fabric.