Supposed to be same material as the Cargo’s but these are lighter because there are no cargo pockets, no Velcro on the pockets, no sash strap on the rt side, no elastic in the waistband, and much smaller front and rear pockets.
Definitely a jeans type of cut compared to the baggier Cargo’s. And a quirky difference… the jeans cut comes in a darker khaki than the Cargo’s.
Living in FL, I like the lighter jeans style but I miss the larger angle cut rear pockets and really don’t like the smaller regular front pockets. OTOH, the jeans have rear mag pockets that are pretty nice.
I wear the Cargo's for work and the jeans-cut when off. Really like both of them. Goodbye regular jeans, hello 5.11. This is all I wear.
I like this Taclite material. It's very comfortable in warm weather. They are lighter than my canvas 5.11s. The 4 covert pockets fit an iPhone 6s easily (no case). The 2 in the front however seem to be narrower & deeper than the back ones. The one thing I didn't like is that both the sides and rear regular pockets are shallow, I've come to love the deep roomy pockets in my other 5.11 styles. Overall I think it's a great quality product. Definitely get a waist size bigger though, as the waistband doesn't stretch. I'm 5'11", 280lbs, 42W. 44W, 32L fits just fine, plenty of room for every day movement.
If you decide to order buy it a size larger, very tight.
I used to live i my 5.11s but over time that has changed. I get the feeling that 5.11 has changed manufacturers and is accepting sub par products. From the shirts hat no longer fit right nor last a year, to pants that let loose at the seams, with pockets desiged for "non Ameican hand sizes" (they are too damned small for a real hand to fit) to pockets sewn closed... Ive taken to purchasing my 5.11 geat fom a local supplier because sizes fluctuate wildly within a specific product and need tobe tried on to ensure fit. Glove and shoes? they dont follow US sizes at all...
By design idea These pants should get five stars, but for the Issues outlined I'm being overly generous giving 3, and that is only because they really do fill a unique roll, and that is the cut, if you find a pair that fits properly, crosses between casual and dressy when you throw on a blazer. If 5.11 straightens out the manufacturing flaws, in the entire clothing line, they could step up and ad a blazer or two, and possibly a safari jacket to their line for security firms. But when they are ruining their own name by using contractors that screw up the product why even bother? These pants would have also been Killer in black and indigo denim but why revive a dying plow horse for the race track? Bad upper management only cares about quarterly bonuses. And those dont come by running off loyal customers with poor quality control.
I'm a veterinarian and as such I'm up and down all day, wrestling patients from the might domestic short haired cat to english mastiffs. These pants are comfortable, stain resistant, wear resistant and reasonably fashionable. This is no complaint but people need to know that if you are a 37" waist do not buy a 36 and hope for the best, the waistbands do not stretch, do not stretch!
These were my favorite everyday-wear pants, I own 2 pairs in each of the 4 different colors. I was hoping the number of available colors would be increased, but it appears that they are being discontinued. I liked having hard wearing, comfortable pants with hidden extra pockets that didn't make other people automatically assume that I was a cop. I guess I'll have to see who else has available offerings of non-tactical looking rip-stop pants with hidden extra pockets.
I have owned a lot of 5.11 gear and it's not often that I find things I don't like about these products. Unfortunately with these pants, the cons FAR outweigh the pros.
1. The fabric is ULTRA thin.
2. These are not really "jean" cut at all.
3. The length is not the same as other 5.11 pants I own...these are a bit shorter.
4. These are what we used to call "nuthugger" pants back when I was in school. They are very constrictive and tight in the midsection....making them quit uncomfortable in the butt, thighs, and "package" sections.
5. The front small pockets, as well as the ones inside the other pockets are far too small for any legitimate use. The tightness of these pants also makes using any of the pockets a hassle.
I regret this purchase...I don't like being disappointed, especially by a brand that I've grown to love and recommend.
Love these pants! Durable and big bang for your buck! I work corporate security for a power company and we have the option of wearing slacks or tact pants. I love these because they look dressy, but theyre tactical. It's like you wanna party but look formal at the same time.
I do like these pants overall, good idea and alternative to something that screams "tactical", more mainstream look. But I do have 2 issues.
1) front hand pockets need to be a little wider at the top- I have smaller hands and they are a challenge for me to get my hands in; 2) i bought my usual 511 waist size and the crotch is a bit snug. Maybe I need to go up a size or maybe it could be widened a bit
The ar mag pockets fit my shield perfectly. They are light, but tough and comfortable. I had a pair for over a year and then bought the rest of the colors and got my Dad a pair as well.